Local Tea Party Members Rally For Wisconsin Governor

By Jon Delano, KDKA Political Editor

PITTSBURGH (KDKA) — Hundreds of union supporters gathered in downtown Pittsburgh Thursday to express solidarity with protestors in Wisconsin.

Friday, there was another rally — this one to support Wisconsin’s governor and to send a message to Gov. Tom Corbett and the legislature.

The issue is public employee pensions, pay and bargaining rights.

A quickly-organized Tea Party rally in support of Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker gathered in front of the City-County Building noon on Friday.

“We wanted to make sure that the taxpayers voice didn’t get lost in all of this because ultimately, particularly when public sector unions are concerned, the decisions that are made we end up paying the bill,” Janet Cook, Tea Party organizer, told KDKA Political Editor Jon Delano.

Organizers stressed they weren’t anti-union — just supportive of those governors who are trying to deal with the high cost of public employee pensions.

“We’re not anti-union per se,” says Sam DeMarco of Veterans & Patriots United. “What we’re talking about is the unsustainable promises that were made by previous politicians to this public sector unions. We just don’t have the ability to pay it any longer.”

“Collective bargaining used to be a good thing,” adds Russ Hall of New Castle. “Now it’s just a power play by the unions to take away money from the taxpayers and we resent that.”

A few union supporters who showed up don’t see it that way and started debating Tea Party members.
“We cut taxes for the rich. We cut taxes for corporate America.”

“Okay, so you don’t want to talk. You can’t debate the situation.”

“You presided over the biggest tax cuts in history, and we still don’t have any jobs. Where are the jobs?”
“The guy can’t explain it.”

Tea Party supporters want Gov. Corbett to stand tough when he presents his budget to the legislature in March.

“My message to Governor Corbett is we elected you to make the hard decisions,” says Tea Party organizer Dale McCoy. “We have faith that you will be make the hard decisions.”

And with legislators having better pensions than most public employees and paying less for health insurance, there was another message to Harrisburg.

“The legislators should lead the way. They work for us. We pay their bill, and it’s the same pool of taxpayer money. So absolutely, the legislature should lead the way by example,” adds McCoy.

It remains to be seen whether Pennsylvania legislators will deal with their own special perks when they debate any proposals to curb benefits and bargaining rights for public employees.

Gov. Corbett has not said what he will propose in his budget speech on March 8. He is obviously caught in the middle.

  • Mike

    Because everyone is tired of hearing your sides crying and boo hoo stories and running away from Democracy…..thats why Joe…..UNIONS ARE DONE

    • Tony G

      Mike you are ignorant.

    • RealAmerican

      Isn’t that welfare check you collect in the trailer park government assistance?

  • Mike

    Tom Corbett was hired to do a job…and I seriously hope he remembers what it is….Stop Democrat progressive, union, communist type spending agendas and return Pennsylvania back to what it always has been at heart….NOT what Ed Rendell and his cronies thought it should be.

    • John W. Valentine

      Some are stmothers who work out of the house. They aren’t scheduled by anyone else. I f they lose business from this it’s their perogative. Some folks are retived and they are worried that they will be taxed out of their houses(some of these were union employees, and realize their mistake now). Some work part time-there’s a lot of that these days. It’s a necessity! You take what you can get.

    • huh?

      Shouldnt all these folks holding “right to work” signs be at work themselves? It’s a Thursday afternoon for pete’s sake.

  • bjv

    Joe- what a TYPICAL Liberal pig you are.
    You can’t make an intelligent comment because you don’t have the intelligence to see this state ,along with all other states except THREE- are OUT OF MONEY.- because of the greed of the unions.

    So you post degrading garbage like this. Bet you’re the first to whine about higher taxes. IDIOT.

    • Bob

      I guess tax cuts for the rich can fix the budget.

      • Dave

        “Tax cuts for the rich”. You union steward would be proud of your parroting.

      • TIm

        Explain to me what’s right about the taxpayers paying for a state workers pension and health benefits. I think ALL federal/state employees should contribute to their own pensions and benefits the same as the private sector does. Im a USW and guess what…I don’t get a pension, I get a 401k that I have to contribute to. I do get health care but its not all that great but my hourly wage SUCKS! My union might as well work for the company instead of me. I can say this about unions….When they were first started they were good for protecting the workers. Now its about money laundering, extortion and bribery.

        Just to show all you liberals how misinformed you are….in WI they are not taking away their rights to bargain for salary. What they are saying is you should not be FORCED to join the union if you dont want to just because of the job you choose. Just another little tidbit for you…If unions are so good for the country why does approximately $4000.00 of every new car sold do to pay union pensions and benefits? Why can a teacher who gets tenure quit and get rehired the next day to start a SECOND pension? Why should I as a tax payer pay for teachers salaries and retirement and pensions WHEN I DONT HAVE CHILDREN IN SCHOOL let alone children at all?

    • Kathleen

      BJV- I think you should resign your union job , you don’t need health insurance or a pension or a 40 hr. work week.
      The greed of Corporations outsourcing jobs, Wall St. subprime , gambling 2 wars. that have cost trillions of dollars destroyed the U.S.A. economy.
      The Unions provided a living wage, benefits and a middle class life style, my grandfather was a miner, my Uncle USW organizer, read some history and re-think your Tea Party rants.

  • John Moyer

    Tea Party members obviously do not understand the issues at hand. the workers are willing to adjust pay and benefits to balance the budget. Revoking the right to organize as a group is the issue. It is not a zero sum game as the Wisconsin Governor has presented it.

    • Nick Liberto

      Tea Party members understand exactly what the issues are, sir. The important concept here is that when government bargains with unions, it is tax dollars that are the sole means of any increases desired. Government provides a service and is not geared to earn a profit. In private industry, collective bargaining is done so based on profitability.
      The government can only guarantee future benefits by collecting more and more taxes to honor such agreements. Everyone needs the services that government provides, but there must be a reasonable limit to such.

  • Tirade

    I expect this article to be full of calm and rational reader comments.

  • Shockly

    What’s not mentioned by most of the media is that the real reason to limit or get rid of collective bargaining is that the unions after making concessions will come back at the end of this contract and say they deserve more because they accepted cuts last time. Thus starting the endless cycle of the dog biting its own tail.

  • Carrie

    I’d like to know what sacrifices all of these tea suckers are making? When the Democrats tried to raise taxes, they raised their own taxes too. Tea Suckers are trying to make working class sacrifice so the rich can stay rich. Go back to school and take an Economics class…

    • Mitch-A-PaLooza

      I agree. . Dont take your Economics course at any American college. It’s probably taught by a liberal democrat that couldnt hack it in the real world so now he has to take out his frustration on our kids..

      • Carrie

        And where exactly did you go to college?

    • Kelli Lynne Rossi

      Carrie, it sounds like you’re the one who needs to go back to school and take an economics class. Tell me you really believe that the Democrats raised their taxes without some loophole to get out of paying them or they made up the difference thru a back door. There’s no economics class anywhere that teaches you what any polotician does to get out of paying taxes. Oh, and make sure you go to a school that really knows what’s up when you go.

      • Carrie

        UK ain’t no joke… Punk! You must be used to those lying Republicans to think that way. Sucks to be you!!! He he! By the way, you never did answer my question. Exactly what sacrifices did they make when they asked the rest of us to “do our part?” Oh, you must not be able to come up with any. By the way, I’m VERY educated, and I have taken MANY economics courses! How ’bout you?

  • bob

    Wow, the Teabaggers really do hate America. Notice how old all those people are. I see a bunch of people with no compassion and very little intelligence. I’d challenge any of these yokels to a debate on the Constituation, but it would be like debating a fundementalist Muslim on Judism.

    You guys really do need to wake up and realize that the whole Tea party movement solely exists to increase the margain of wealth in America. You dolts get all weepy about the Constitution, gun rights, God-stuff and Sarah Palin, yet can’t understand that the people who are riding thise wave of idiocity are puppets to the Industrial Military complex and corporate interests.

    As you scream to cut the Government, specifically the EPA (vilified by companies for obvious reasons, and for some reason you guys are eating it up. They say they’re bad, you say they’re bad), these interests are riding your misplaced passion for “America” and the “Constitution” to levels of historical personal weath. But how much money do you have in the bank?

    And it’s the working class who is being targetted, and maybe it’s because of self hate or some sort of resentment toward teachers and government workers, that is who the Tea Baggers want to suffer. Not the rich, who is pulling off the biggest financial end-around in our history, not the people really in charge. You are going after your neighbor, the people who teach your grandchildren, those who keep your roads paved, and for what?

    The same people whose chests swell and tears get in their eyes when they hear Sarah Palin make jokes about the president feel nothing for the people affected by this power grab. It’s selfish and astounding and makes me want to puke.

    Also, I love how the Teabaggers call themselves patriots, as if its an exclusive club, to be a patriot is to be one of us, and if you’re not with us, you’re against us. If you’re not a patriot, you’re a commie, just like that muslim president these pansy libs elected. They are leading you by your stupid sentimental hearts while they clean out the banks and stuff their pockets. Maybe your waving flags and ridiculous signs are getting in the way.

  • BGJ

    I AM a union member working for our local public school district. I AM in FULL support of Gov. Walker! Here, we are facing a pay freeze, higher health care costs, among other things.

    HOWEVER, I will vote against the measure due to the administration accepting a 5% pay increase and the fact the district superintendent just awarded himself a $1,500 bonus!

    To restore the economy we must ALL bear the burden equally across the board.

    • Gary Gnu

      Two wrongs dont make it right. You are the problem just as much as the supt. Show our youth some leadership.

    • BGJ lies

      Dear BGJ

      To quote Joe Wilson, “YOU LIE!”.

  • TOM

    bjv if the states are out of money it’s because of the corporate and political greed of the filthy rich trying to get even richer while they try to take away your collective bargaining rights so that they can drive the middle class into slavery. They proved it when the under worked and over paid CEO’s in the auto industry paid of the politician’s to give them a bail out. You know how it works, if you bail us out with taxpayer’s money we’ll give you some. same thing happens on the state level. Union worker’s making 40 or 50,000 a year didn’t break this state or country greedy corporation’s and corrupt politician’s did. Who are you to tell me or anyone else that they make too much money and that they should be stripped of their bargaining rights ? Unless you have done my job or walked one day in my shoe’s then you need to keep your worthless opinion to yourself. I’ll bet you enjoy weekend’s off, personal day’s, vacation’s, medical benefits and a nice little pension plan, you can thank the Unions for that …if it was’nt for union’s you would’nt have any of that. Why do republican’s condemn democrats for trying to make an honest living and provide for their families? Can anyone give me valid reason ?

    • BGJ

      In the private sector, the capitalist knows that when he negotiates with the union, if he gives away the store, he loses his shirt. In the public sector, the politicians who approve any deal have none of their own money at stake. On the contrary, the more favorably they dispose of union demands, the more likely they are to be the beneficiary of union largess in the next election. It’s the perfect cozy setup.

      This is not about protecting bona fide unions, but about protecting a criminal scam. There is a defined difference between public sector unions and private sector unions. This is about unions that negotiate with public officials who, ultimately, are in their own pocket because of campaign contributions. I hope Gov. Walker and the others continue to stand up to them.

  • TOM

    BJG You shoul be stripped of you union card for that comment

    • BGJ

      Its BGJ. I do not agree with my union protecting its workers from bearing the consequences of years of out of control spending. It is a burden we ALL must bear. I do NOT agree with administration receiving bonuses and pay increases while they expect union members to bear the school district’s burden alone. I stand for equality across the board!

      I do NOT agree with my union dues funding political campaigns. For any union member out there, you can receive a refund of union dues for this. Go to: Unionrefund.org

      On another note, I make less than $40,000 a year, I get NO paid vacation, NO paid holidays, I pay into my medical plan, and pay into my retirement. I am forced union, so good luck getting my card :)

      • BGJ

        The article, “What Madison Revealed: Teachers are Rent Seekers,” explains how the money cycle works with politicians and public employee unions. The state collects the union dues by taking it out of a person’s paycheck which is required by the union. The union then makes cozy deals with the politicians in exchange for money. Why do you think that Obama is so cozy with SEIU? SEIU spent over $85 million dollars on his campaign! That buys REAL cozy deals!

        In the 2010 election cycle, there was $73,427,900 given to politicians. Here you can see where the money went. Almost all of it went to Democrats. Keep in mind, that with the public employees, their salaries come from our taxes. So, in essence, they are using our money to get more of our money.

      • BGJ is a fool

        BGJ said, “I am forced union, so good luck getting my card.”

        Don’t like it? QUIT

        Go work for a parochial school.

        Go work for Sandford Brown.

        Go work for a Christian Academy.

        Start your own school.

  • TOM

    Dave your CEO would be proud of your parrotting

  • Shockly

    Public worker unions are a drain on the mind and soul of a free and democratic society.

  • Fred

    Let’s start with eliminating pensions and hospitalization for politicians!

    • Ladydian

      Yeah Fred
      I’m all for this. This is what n.eeds to be done, but who has the right? They should get what we need to live on. I got no increase in social security but every bill has gone up, including gas. Funny isn’t it, the cost per barrel of oil went down but the gas prices are sky-rocketing.
      You might want to check out http://www.bilderberg.org and read. It’s about world power and who will rule the world.

  • Rant

    I was a USWA union member for 30 yrs. and my pension comes from my previous employer in the private sector. I will receive no insurance and have medicare and a plan I pay from my own pocket but I am forced to pay for public employees’ pensions that are anywhere from 30 to 50% higher than mine AND their health insurance. It’s the public union workers and big government that are destroying the middle class. Government jobs aren’st being lost, it’s the private sector jobs – union and non-union. I think it’s shameful that the Wisconsin legislators ran off and teachers are having temper tantrums in the streets. They should all be fired. And I have never walked into a hospital, library, museum, or attended an event in the arts that hasn’t been endowed by a rich person.. They have done more to improve the human condition than any government program has ever done and their money isn’t given with strings attached. This country was buillt by a nation of individuals exercising their freedom, not collective bargaing on the backs of the taxpayers working for corporations.

    • BGJ

      Agreed! I wouldnot want these teachers educating my children!

      A bit of history for you:
      When three-fourths of the Boston police department went on strike in 1919, leading to broken shop windows and looting, then-Massachusetts Governor Calvin Coolidge called out the state militia and broke the strike. Coolidge declared, “There is no right to strike against the public safety by anybody, anywhere, any time.”

      Fast forward to Aug. 3, 1981 when the Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization (PATCO) called a strike over better working conditions, better pay and a 32-hour workweek. In doing so, the union violated a law that banned strikes by government unions. Ronald Reagan declared the PATCO strike a “peril to national safety” and ordered them back to work under terms of the Taft-Hartley Act of 1947. Only 1,300 of the nearly 13,000 controllers returned to work. Subsequently, Reagan demanded those remaining on strike to resume work within 48 hours, or forfeit their jobs. On Aug. 5, following the PATCO workers’ refusal to return to work, Reagan fired the 11,345 striking air traffic controllers who had ignored the order and banned them from federal service for life. Pro-labor Democratic president Bill Clinton rescinded this ban in 1993.

      Now it’s the turn of Wisconsin Republican Governor Scott Walker. So far, the 43-year-old governor, in office less than two months, has stood his ground against schoolteachers who called in sick (nice example for the kids) and other union members — many of them bussed into Madison from outside the state.

  • cindee

    Can the Tea Baggers please move to Wisconsin where they can enjoy living in the 1800’s? Just think, every child can be born, even the unwanted ones, then they can starve or die from not having any services. They can go back to a life when there was no minimum wage, and the super rich can rule over them. They can all have guns, and carry them around like it was in the 1980’s. They can murder animals for fun and place their heads all over the walls with expensive rifles and costumes. Heck, they can turn into Mexico. Just imagine, no paying for government services, no taxes, no mail, no streets, just like in the good ole days. We’ll just let them take their advice from Glen Beck, and health advice from Rush Limbaugh and they can hate anyone with a college degree and call middle class people Elites, and they can call their masters Businessmen. YAY

  • HorizonScanner

    I rallied with the Tea Party at the City County Buliding. Let me say this: Thousands of corporations fight for commercial life round the clock. Many fail. I don’t hear the Unionistas lamenting their demises. I don’t belong any Union. There are no Astrologer unions. Most of us out here, the vast majority of the American people, don’t have a fixer, like Trumka, working the Oval Office on behalf of his cronies up at the SEIU Building, half a block up from the AFL/CIO Building, in D.C. There are no salesmen unions. Regardless, to equate a GOVERNMENT PAID JOB with anything in the private sector is absurd, and it takes a rather deluded liar to try to sell all of us out here that there is something FAIR about being able to FIX THINGS for your UNION BUDDIES is like arguing that MOVEON.ORG doesn’t work for George Soros, the world’s ultimate socialist fixer.

    • BGJ

      Or that Acorn was disbanded, but is now operating live and well India! While the Obama administration runs away from ACORN here in the United States it is quietly embracing ACORN overseas.

      The Obama administration is using U.S. government resources to help the embattled radical advocacy organization spread the gospel of left-wing community organizing in India. ACORN India reports to ACORN International, which now goes by the name Community Organizations International. ACORN International serves as an umbrella organization for the various national organizations conducting ACORN’s business outside the U.S.

      ACORN International is active in Argentina, Canada, Dominican Republic, Honduras, India, Kenya, Mexico, and Peru.

  • Eric J.

    Kathleen- Perhaps you should find out what the supporters of Gov Walker are talking about. I don’t care what PRIVATE unions such as USW, UMW or any other PRIVATE union works out with a PRIVATE Corp. But Public unions are taking MY tax money to support their benefits. I am middle class non-union and I am tired of money I could use to provide for my family being taken from ME to pay their benefits. So perhaps YOU should learn what the issue is before you decide to criticize any one else.

  • Ed

    meanwhile, I’m a 35 year old, single, college-educated, white man, living in my parents basement. I have a non-union job at 25K, zero benefits, no retirement, no health insurance, no savings, no prospects, a used car, and i’m losing my hair and my looks. Any suggestions?

    • Nick

      Ed, If you are a 35 year old college grad, living in your parent’s basement and losing your hair, why is it that you earn only 25,000.00 annually?
      I am a 72 year old retiree that works 1 day per week and I will earn 7,000.00 this year. If I wanted to work 5 days per week, I could do so and earn 30,000.00. I am not a college grad.
      I would ask of you, in what field do you hold a degree. Now if you say you came out of school with a degree in sociology, I would agree that 25K is about what you might expect in return. If at 35, you have not parlayed your degree into something more, then you need to look in the mirror and ask….why?

  • Nick Liberto

    Pa. has been a “closed shop” for as long as I can remember and I started working for a living in the late 1950’s. There was some sanity then and it was before any government employees had unions….and that included teachers. Collective bargaining at that time, was based upon a lot of things, but mainly on profitability in a particular business.
    Government is funded by tax dollars and has never made any kind of profit. I do not argue that many services are provided and any society must have same in order to survive. Teachers also provide a valuable service, but again, our schools are funded by tax dollars.
    No one should be able to hold collective bargaining as a tool with an entity that is funded by tax dollars. Absolutely no exceptions.

  • The Quitta from Wasilla

    T(ax) E(vading) A(narchists) parties are for little girls with imaginary friends.

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