Brentwood Woman Loses Wedding Ring In Trash

BRENTWOOD (KDKA) — Beverly and Regis Englert’s wedding at St. Sylvester Church in Brentwood nearly 11 years ago was picture perfect. The rings sparkled on her fingers.

“And I always take my rings off before I make dinner,” Beverly said.

Beverly says she did just that Sunday evening, putting her engagement ring and wedding band in a paper towel on the kitchen table. Then later, she cleaned up.

“Everything I saw on the table I just picked it up and like I said I accidentally threw it in the trash,” she explained.

From there it went curbside for next day pick-up. The next morning, Beverly realized what she’d done.

“Monday morning came and the garbage man took my rings,” she said.

Home security camera photos show Beverly running out to flag down the Allied Waste sanitation truck. She pleaded with the driver.

But when she offered to go through the garbage, he told her it had been compacted once and it was impossible.

When the truck made a second pass, she begged him again. He gave a glimmer of hope.

“‘What we could do is, we could probably put it in a separate pile for you,’” Beverly said.

Beverly called the landfill in Scottdale immediately alerting them to the problem, but when she and Regis contacted managers, they were told it was mixed in with everything else.

Regis was underwhelmed by the sanitation company’s response. “Oop, too bad, it’s in the garbage now. Your ring’s gone. We’re not going to do anything for you.”

The rings are priceless.

“It’s not the money,” says Beverly. “The thing is, this is very sentimental and it is a symbol of my love with my husband.”

Allied Waste sent a statement. It says in part: “We are sorry that Ms. Englert lost her wedding ring and realize that she must be very distressed to lose such a sentimental item. For health and safety reasons, we cannot allow anyone looking for lost items to search our garbage trucks and landfills. Searching for a ring in a landfill is truly looking for a needle in a haystack.”

David Smith, general manager of Allied Waste Services in Scottdale, refused to answer any questions.

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  • bev childers

    that is such bull! you can go to the landfill drive up to a pile and unload your own garbage,[for a price]if it were that unsafe you wouldnt be allowed to drop off either.. i agree they plan on doing thier own treasure hunt! its still not too late !let the lady in!

    • Lesley Kaluzne

      Hello Beverly, i understand your pain this happened to me earlier this year and my life has been in turmoil. I am completely distraught and this has been very traumatic. I emailed the refuse company that i have for service as well as my sister in England also email. Numerous calls to different individuals at the transfer station, landfill and head quarters of the refuse company. I am beside myself. it is the sentimental and i have more than one item, yes all diamond pieces of jewelry.

  • pittnorth

    Very true, it is a known fact that the garbage men go thru things and keep what they find. Everything from jewelry to electronics to money.

    • Former Garbage Man

      Actually thats not the case at all. If an employee takes anything on the route for personal use it’s ground for termination. Secondly, there is no room in or on those trucks to store any electronics as you said. Third, I picked up trash for a lot of years and I bet I found maye $50 total. And when you find that in the hopper with 5 or 6 houses worth of trash, how do you know where to return it to?


        Just wondering how you “found” that $50 and whether you ever reported it. Also, did you happen to claim this “find” on your 1040 taxes that year? Did you tell your employer that you “found” $50 from the garbage bags of people on your route?

        I’ve been reading all of your posts and am really starting to wonder who you are.

      • Former Garbage Man

        Former “IRS Agent”….your post may be the stupidist thing I’ve seen on here, and there is a lot of dumb stuff posted here! Seriously? Your post reminds me of former WWF wrestler Irwin R. Shyster’s mid-1990’s promos about paying your taxes!

      • FarmGirl

        Are you serious Former IRS Agent? He said he found $50 over the course of many years, so according to you, a person should report every dollar they find laying on the sidewalk? HA! The Government gets enough of my money to waste already.

  • Mary

    I bet you also think it’s insane that criminals sue homeowners when they’re hurt while breaking into homes & get hurt & actually win their cases. Everywhere you look there are safety devices , rules, & regulations in place to protect people, some because of past lawsuits ( notice the warning on your McDonalds coffee?) Suppose this woman climbs in for her ring and ends up twisting an ankle. Not a huge deal. What if she doesn’t have insurance & needs 20 stitches because she stepped on something sharp and now the company who provides Allied’s insurance won’t cover her because she shouldn’t have been there? Maybe she could even stumble onto some dirty needles. The company isn’t always the bad guy. If something is important to you, don’t wrap it in a paper towel which is meant to be thrown away.

    • Brian

      @ Mary – I totally agree. It sucks that they had to take this position but the risk is way too high for Allied to allow folks to rifle through garbage at their leisure. Sure, there is no doubt that someone at Allied scored with a trinket treasure trove, of sorts. However, this lady made a mistake – as we all do. The unfortunate outcome of those mistakes are we learn to not make them again, hopefully. So, I am with the “way of the world” on this one. Boo hoo little lady. Sorry you have home security to capture your buffoonery on tape. But wait a minute, you live in a nice neighborhood (because you have curbside pickup), you have video surveillance of your property, and you obviouslyhad enough social pull to get someone to listen to your whinings. I think you should re-evaluate how much stock you place on material things and thank God for what you still have. Just my two cents….the glass can be half full at times.

      • Shannon

        Yeah Brian… it was all about the money. No sentimental value to an engagement ring. Hey, are you married by chance. Did you run that one by your wife… ehrr, maybe your ex-wife if you happen to be divorced?

        Mistakes happen, but there are plenty of articles on the internet about garbage companies allowing citizens to go through garbage once it is flagged. There is a story from Tampa (link attached) where for $100 they will give you a hazmat suit and allow you to recover your lost items if you contact them in time.

        Take a look at it “Brian” and just hope you never lose anything sentimental… you know, like maybe leave something on the bus, taxi, or airplane. Forget something at a hotel or shopping mall? Never had anyone help you out ever in your life?… well, how great it must to be so freakin’ perfect. Of course, then again, judging by your attitude, I can see why your wife or girlfriend wouldn’t be so upset if she lost YOUR ring, you baffoon.

        I feel for this lady and I would try to do the same thing if it was my wedding ring lost. It just pains me to think that if I contacted the media that jerks like you would say such things about me.

    • Mr._Johne_Doe

      Hey Mary… sniff, sniff… I smell garbage. Oh, that’s just you. Don’t worry, I guess you’d smell like garbage when you work at the Allied Waste dump all day. I’m sure Mary is probably not a female, and more likely a guy (just guessing from the insensitive way posting is written), and I’m further guessing that your damage control for Allied Waste. By the way, after you get your bath you insensitive piece of trash… why don’t you wash that dirty mouth out of yours, as well. Oh, and by the way, let me know if you happen to find the missing ring while you’re picking through Allied Waste’s “dangerous” refuse dump.

  • Spit the GOD !!!

    …This is NEWS ??????

    Who the F !!!!! cares ?

  • This i= can't be...

    …This is NEWS ??????

    Who the F !!!!! cares ?

    • nsb2011

      REALLY!!! This isn’t news. This article should be on America’s Funniest or America’s DUMBEST. I hope some landfill worker does find it and hawk it and have a brighter day because of this moron.

  • oh snap

    come to think of it….this is probably all bull. In reality….she lost the rings earlier or she left them at the hotel.

    • Boy Wonder

      Call me crazy, but if this was all a farce and there weren’t any rings… then why do you suppose Allied Waste was so resistant to offering any help? I don’t know, maybe the driver of the truck was a mind reader or something and new she was making it all up as she ran out the door chasing down an f’n garbage truck.

      Oh snap, by the way will you be there for the next 9/11 is a hoax club meeting? We missed you last week…

  • I Used to LOVE KDKA !!!!!

    KDKA needs to STEP IT UP !!!!

    I’m converting to WPXI. This ring thing is the last straw !! I want NEWS !!!!!!
    (Changing my homepage RIGHT NOW !!!!!!)
    get a story that the people need to know about.

    • missgal34

      Here’s ya some news. Don’t mess with Mississippi!!!! lol
      Westboro Baptist Church Goes To Mississippi – And Loses
      Posted by: MacAoidh on Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 18:00
      On Saturday USMC Staff Sgt. Jason Rogers, who was killed in action in Afghanistan April 7, was buried in Brandon, Mississippi. That, by itself, is a sadly unremarkable – though certainly noteworthy and solemn – occasion for us to mark.
      And in fact when Sgt. Rogers’ body returned to Brandon it was greeted by hundreds, or perhaps even thousands, of well-wishers who gathered at the roadside to honor the fallen American hero. The dashboard camera from Mississippi state trooper Elmo Townsend’s cruiser gives an indication of the scene last Thursday.
      What is most notable about Sgt. Rogers’ funeral in Brandon, however, is what didn’t happen.
      You see, the troglodytes from Westboro Baptist Church had threatened to spew their poison at Sgt. Rogers’ funeral.
      But the Westboro mob wasn’t on the scene, and Sgt. Rogers was laid to rest without incident – thank God. Why weren’t there protestors?
      A couple of days before, one of them (Westboro protestors) ran his mouth at a Brandon gas station and got his arse waxed. Police were called and the beaten man could not give much of a description of who beat him. When they canvassed the station and spoke to the large crowd that had gathered around, no one seemed to remember anything about what had happened.
      Rankin County handled this thing perfectly. There were many things that were put into place that most will never know about and at great expense to the county.
      Most of the morons never made it out of their hotel parking lot. It seems that certain Rankin county pickup trucks were parked directly behind any car that had Kansas plates in the hotel parking lot and the drivers mysteriously disappeared until after the funeral was over. Police were called but their wrecker service was running behind and it was going to be a few hours before they could tow the trucks so the Kansas plated cars could get out.
      A few made it to the funeral but were ushered away to be questioned about a crime they might have possibly been involved in. Turns out, after a few hours of questioning, that they were not involved and they were allowed to go on about their business.

  • What hapened to KDKA ???

    Ken & Ralph are awesome, but this isn’t news. This sh@t SUCKS !!!- who cares if she lost a ring. everyone loses something daily. Here- if i lose mine will your film crew come to my house ? I’ll be screaming ” hi mom !!! i made it on tv !!!-yay”

    • KDKA Defender

      Everyone loses something daily… yeah, like their dignity (assuming you ever had any). If you don’t care about a lost ring, then why did you not only click on the link, but also post a dumb comment @ 1:52 AM in the morning?

      By the way, when you say “your house,” aren’t you really referring to your mom’s house (you live in the basement right)? Oh yeah, mom says to stop screaming; you’re keeping her up!

  • Down in the Dump

    She should call Tradio, or her insurance company……..not KDKA news

    • juice

      I agree. She probably doesnt have insurance. I wouldnt have let her look for the rings either, what if she would have got cut on something or injured herself. The garbage man would have lost his job and she would have sued. Shes an idiot, take your rings off and put them in a safe place next time. This is not an Allied Waste problem.

  • former dep employee

    What the Allied Waste manager should have told the lady and the news… it is against PA state laws to allow ANYONE, with the exception of law enforcement officers to go through the trash once it is picked up in front of a home or from a dumpster at at business. These laws are enforceable and as the driver told the lady he could have lost his job and the hauling company could have faced severe fines from the DEP if caught. As to the people on here who say the trash company is heartless, they clearly do not understand the laws which govern trash collection. There are also health risks, and not to mention privacy issues involved. People don’t always shread their personal information before putting it in their garbage. That is why it is also illegal for people to “dumpster” dive in this state. No trash hauler in the state of PA is allowed to just let people go through the truck trash or the landfill trash – once it is in the truck – it is lost.

    My suggestion to the lady is… Call DEP and verify the above is true, And to Allied Waste, ask the lady if she would be willing to pay the fines that DEP would give them for allowing her to go through the trash. They can be pretty high, just ask KDKA about some of the fines they’ve reported on in the past that DEP has given trash companies for breaking the rules.

    • Legal Eagle

      Former DEP Employee… first of all, what law (statute) are you citing that forbid a resident from looking through refuse if it is dumped prior to getting to the landfill??? Pray tell, former DEP employee.

      Also, what laws would have prvented Allied Waste from having a conscience and allowing the couple to not touch the trash, but to oversee the trash being pulled by Allied Waste employees. There are other stories on the web as many have said where they allow residents to go through the trash if they lost something. In one county in Florida they allow the resident to search the trash for $100 if they catch the truck PRIOR to the landfill.

      It is nice of you though, to defend Allied Waste. Congratulations.

      • Former Garbage Man

        Not only are residents not allowed to go through trash once its collected and dumped, but company employees(drivers, helpers, landfill equipment operators, etc) are prohibited by company policy from “scavaging” in a landfill, so nobody was waiting for that truck to dump so they could sort through it hoping to find a wedding ring that wasn’t going to be found anyway with 10 tons of trash on top of it.

        Secondly, for all of the know it alls that think the crew could have just given her the trash back. The only way that was happening was if it was a rear load truck and she caught them before they packed it. Once that packer runs, the trash in the hopper is gone. If it was one of the one-man front load truck, than that ring isn’t coming back once the driver empties the bucket. So once the trash is packed or in the truck, it’s impossible to get it back out until the truck is dumped.

        Third, these stories about Florida involve disposal at a transfer station or incenerator. That trash is dumped on a solid concrete floor which would make sorting it after its dumped possible. Dumping in a landfill, as is the case in this story, that trash is dumped into a big pile with other trash in a hole and covered immediately by heavy equipment.

        It sucks she lost her rings, but the trash company isn’t to blame here.

      • former dep employee

        Lets start here….

        Scavenging or Refuse Littering and Dumping
        Chapter 174 by the Brentwood Borough code prohibits scavenging of refuse, littering and dumping

        Going on to the county level…

        Rules and Regulations
        800. AUTHORITY. These regulations are promulgated under the powers granted to counties by the Local
        Health Administration Law, Act 315, P.L. 1304, adopted August 24, 1951, as amended; the Second
        Class County Code Act of July 28, 1953, P.L. 723, as amended; the Solid Waste Management Act of
        July 7, 1980, P.L. 380, No. 97, as amended; and the Municipal Waste Planning, Recycling and Waste
        Reduction Act of July 28, 1988, P.L. 556, No. 101, as amended.

        813. FUNCTIONS AND POWERS, ENFORCEMENT INTERPRETATION (only added the one that pertains to the issue)….
        H. Scavenging for solid waste and source-separated recyclable material at facilities, curbside collection points, locations, and solid waste storage container locations is prohibited.

        Finally, State…

        Act 1980-97 LAWS OF PENNSYLVANIA
        No. 1980-97

        Section 610. Unlawful conduct.
        It shall be unlawful for any person or municipality to: Store, collect, transport, process, treat, beneficially use, or dispose
        of, or assist in the storage, collection, transportation, processing, treatment,
        beneficial use or disposal of, solid waste contrary to the rules or regulations adopted under this act, or orders of the department, or any term
        or any condition of any permit, or in any manner as to createa public nuisance
        or to adversely affect the public health, safetyand welfare.

        If you read the entire state act above (not just what I posted) it is basically up to each county and municipality, with strict guidance from the state as to what is allowed and not.

        It goes on to explain that once items are put out at the curb of a home, they no longer belong to the homeowner, they become public property. And the Scavenging regulations are in place to deter individuals from participating in such activity.

        Companies, take that further by severely punishing employees for engaging in that sort of thing.

        Allegheny County sites Health / Public saftey reasons for not being allowed to recover items from the trash once it is in the truck, or landfill. And person or persons can be fined heavily by the muniipality, county and state.

        Had the load not be compacted, it might have been handled differently. But once compacted it makes a very messy, and potentially dangerous mess to sort through.

        Again…. ALL STATE RULES AND REGULATIONS ARE DIFFERENT… you can not blame Allied Waste for following the rules in OUR state. If you don’t like the rules, write Harrisburg, Sue them for passing these “unfair” “heartless” rules so the lady could get her rings back.

        I really do feel bad for her heartache and loss, but rules are here for reasons. Some good some bad, and some most just don’t understand. I try hard to look at things from all angles to try and get a perspective from all sides.

        But, if she keeps getting this kind of attention, maybe some big wig company who wants to benefit from the publicity will send her a new set of rings.

    • Mr._Johne_Doe

      You are a liar “former DEP employee.” I doubt you were a DEP employee, if so, what dept. did you work? Can you cite this **law** that you claim exists in PA law?

      Wow, isn’t it amazing that a former DEP employee would so quickly jump to the defense of a PRIVATE waste refuse company? I mean, is it possible that you are a “former” DEP employee because you were fired for taking a bribe? You know, private waste disposal companies do have a history with organized crime. Wasn’t Tony Soprano in the “waste disposal” business?

      • Can't we all just get along

        Wow, former dep employee, what’s your beef? I hate the litigious nature of the world. In the end, this should have been a simple conversation between her and the Allied employee(s). She asks for her bags back, he/they gives them back. She finds her rings, and the bags go back to the cans for next week’s pick up.

  • Judy

    (This is coming from a woman.) Who does something as stupid as leaving her rings *on a paper towel* while she cleans up? I’m just surprised she didn’t throw them away sooner! What better way to lose your jewelry than to make it look as much like clean-up trash as possible?

    I take my rings off when I cook and clean, too, but I put them in a glass cup on the windowsill, where they won’t be mistaken for trash, won’t accidentally get washed down the drain, and where they are easily visible. Duh!

    This woman did something foolish and now she wants everyone else to bend over backwards to fix it.

  • Shannon

    Judy, when did you get out of MENSA? Let’s see, you criticize a paper towel (okay, I agree), but then your “better” example is using a glass? LMFAO!

    Hope you don’t have kids or a husband, or a sink or a dishwasher for that matter, because if one them gets a hold of that glass when you’re not looking, then they could end up in the drain, or worse, your child’s esophagus.

  • Johnny Rocker

    Anal much? It could be something you’ve never heard of, called a typo?

    • Jeremy

      Johnny Rocker:

      What you do in your free time is your business, but please stay on topic.

  • Suzanne

    What’s amazing is that after reading the comments, I did a search for throwing away wedding ring. I found countless news stories of other waste companies including one in NJ (seriously, if NJ has a heart, what does that say about Allied Waste?) that let people search the dump for a lost wedding ring. This couple only wanted to get the bags off of the truck right after they were loaded. I can see the complication of going through a landfill. But you can’t tell me that the driver couldn’t have given her back the bags he had *just* loaded onto the truck. I wonder if these trucks have GPS? Can they track where that truck went and whether it took any long stops while the driver went through the trash himself looking for the “prize?”

  • tbaby2

    Sentimental- in a paper towel that YOU threw away. Didn’t notice until the garbage was picked up the next day…but of course its the garbage personnel’s fault. She had how long after dinner to remember it was not on her lovely finger and before it was picked up. Another stupid action that will be blamed on someone else instead of the person truly responsible for it being in the dump in the first place. Bet the next SENTIMENTAL ring she gets will be place in a more secure place like a pocket or a small shot glass that I use placed on the refrigerator. Good luck with that!!

  • Mary

    I still stick by my above comments. This woman put her wedding rings, wedding rings folks, in a paper towel. If they have such high sentimental value then you take care of them. They’re either on your finger or in a safe place, not a paper towel. If I see a random paper towel on my table, I throw it away, how should I know someone wrapped wedding rings in there? People are so quick to place the blame on others, such as Allied in this case, instead of where it should be. I need to go now so I can store my electronics on my deck. I’m going to call the news and blame the weatherman when they get rained on.

    • Mr._Johne_Doe

      Mary… I’d like to wrap you up in a paper towel and then place you by the curb on a Tuesday. Probably need to duct tape your mouth since you’re such a yapper. At any rate, when they “accidentally” place you in the Allied Waste truck, all of your loved ones should be comforted that whatever happens after you’re in the truck isn’t Allied Waste’s fault.

      Hey… stop that truck, Mary’s in there… oh yeah, that’s right, once it’s in the truck it’s not Allied Waste’s problem. Guess it’s my fault for wrapping Mary in a paper towel. What will the blogging world do w/o her witty comments.

      • Former Garbage Man

        Mr. John, have you ever been in a landfill? Have you ever loaded garbage or packed one of those trucks? I didn’t think so. And why do you keep ripping this Mary lady for expressing her opinion(which is a lot more sensible than yours). My man, you are in my best Pittsburgh-ese…a jagoff!

  • crystalangel336

    And they have the audacity to call someone else a moron….hahaha.

  • Amanda

    Wow… The woman shouldn’t have left her ring in a paper towel… plain and simple. I keep my ring on a ring holder in my kitchen when I’m cooking or cleaning. In plain sight and away from my sink. It is sad that we have so many rules and regulations because people are such fools that now common decency is in fact, uncommon. Sadly if they had let her search for her ring, and she had been hurt, we’d be reading a story about how it’s Allied’s fault that she has tetanus or syphilis or some disease and that they should pay her for allowing her into the trash pile in the first place.

    • Lisa

      It’s really unfortunate you feel that way. I watched the story on TV and thought it was horrible that nothing more was done by the garbage company. I don’t know if she’s read any of these nasty comments by other posters, but if I were her, I’d be calling my attorney and suing this company. Unfortunately, sometimes the only thing big corporations understand is money and lawsuits = money.

  • Buttrings

    More stupid shmaltz….next time lady,stick them up your a$$ & youl’l know were they are !

  • Shannon

    Please read how easy this could have been prevented if Allied Waste would have just stopped the truck:

  • No Name

    Interesting article that was posted bellow by “Shannon” on how garbage is handled by caring locally run companies rather than greedy for-profit private businesses like Allied:

  • married to a garbage man

    My husband works as a garbage man for Waste Management, and I asked him what his thoughts were, and they were the same… once the truck has packed a load, its too late. There are VERY strict “scavaging” rules with every garbage company out there, and employees can and will lose their jobs if caught. I know how I would feel if I had lost mine, and knew they were so close, but unattainable. For those who say to “sue” the company, we are quickly becoming a country of “sue” happy individuals. Bottom line, call around to other trash companies and ask how would they handle this, and I would bet they all would tell you the same…. Sorry. This was not the fault of the trash company, it is no one’s fault. It was an accident that she threw them away, but SHE threw them away, and you can’t blame someone else for your mistake when they can’t by laws/rules fix it for you.

    • Julie B.

      Married to a garbage man:
      Well, first ask your husband what he’d have done if it was ****your*** diamond ring. LOL… I’m sure it would have been the same outcome if your husband learned you threw away a couple months of his hard earned income.

      If you would have READ some of he other postings you would have also realized that there are many stories on the internet about cases where people actually recovered their items. I don’t get some of these postings, way too many that are so defensive of Allied Waste and sound like disgruntled Allied Waste employees and management.

      I for one agree that she should sue the company. Maybe next time if someone else loses something important in trash the company will realize that it might actually *cost* them if they just dump it and forget it.

      I’m not married like you, but my boyfriend is an attorney. Maybe he’ll take the case. I didn’t hear it mentioned in the interview, but I’d be surprised if they don’t sue them!

  • married to a garbage man

    Oh – how many stories have we found that trash companies have allowed individuals to search through the trash (in the truck or at the landfill) in PA – trash rules / regulations are different from state to state. Everyone keeps siting stories from other states, NO ONE has given an example of this occuring in PA, why because it is not allowed here.

    • Mr._Johne_Doe

      You are a LIAR, LIAR, LIAR, LIAR, LIAR, LIAR. You are not “mattied to a garbage man” and are some Allied Waste executive or other emplyee. You’re a joke… just call the PA Dept of Environmental Protection that regulates these waste dumps. The phone # is right on their website. Just call or email them and they will tell you there is not a law prohibiting a private company from allowing a private citizen from searching through garbage if the person is searching for an item from their own garbage.

      What is that smell in the air???? Is it Allied Waste’s garbage or is it a big lawsuit? Hmmm… me thinks it’s a big lawsuit. I can’t wait, this is getting very interesting…

  • Kindness Pays

    Yes, this is news. You complainers can get your dose of arrogance from Fox News. They like people like you because you’re so easily manipulated.
    My simpathies go to the lady who lost her ring. The same thing happened to my wife’s engagement ring twice, both in Japanese hotels. I found it the first time in a small trash bin wrapped in a piece of plastic. The second time, in another hotel some years later, we didn’t have time to search for it so asked the maid to leave us her trash bags while we left for the day to visit relatives. Two large bags were waiting for us when we got back and it was a simple matter for us to dump it out and go through it. Both events were potentially traumatic but ended happily thanks to the kind Japanese maid who helped us. The Brentwood trash collector should have been more accomodating but instead, will now be forever remembered as the man who refused to allow a search for a missing ring.

    • Rae

      I don’t know which side I fall on in this debate, but I will point out that garbage collected by a maid in Japan is hardly a comparison. Maids don’t compact their garbage in giant trucks, nor do they have the same laws as the US.

      However, my intention in this response has nothing to do with who is right or wrong. I really wanted to respond to your post because of your ridiculous and completely unrelated comment about Fox News and their “easily manipulated” viewers. Honestly, do you liberal haters have anything better to do other than slam conservatives in posts about non-related topics?

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